scottrnelson
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Pleasanton, CA
USA KTM
990 Adv, ST2, XR650L
Posted - 08/16/2009 : 7:15 PM
I noticed that Jorge Lorenzo had a Dainese airbag jacket when he crashed out of the MotoGP race today a few laps from the end, trying to stay out in front of Valentino Rossi. The announcers figured that it might have saved a broken collar bone. He looked kind of like a football player when he got up after rolling over and over through the gravel.
If airbag technology is good enough for the top roadracers, there's hope that it will be useful for regular riders too.
capozzir
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253 Posts
Leesburg, VA
USA Honda
GL1800B
Posted - 08/21/2009 : 7:46 AM
quote:Originally posted by scottrnelson
I noticed that Jorge Lorenzo had a Dainese airbag jacket when he crashed out of the MotoGP race today a few laps from the end, trying to stay out in front of Valentino Rossi. The announcers figured that it might have saved a broken collar bone. He looked kind of like a football player when he got up after rolling over and over through the gravel.
If airbag technology is good enough for the top roadracers, there's hope that it will be useful for regular riders too.
Pretty cool wasn't it? Rossi is running a similar suit. I think they have been testing the suit out since Donignton. If you look closely you can see little led lights flashing on the front of the left shoulder/arm area of the leathers indicating the status of the airbag system.
Edited by - capozzir on 08/21/2009 7:52 AM
Deseret Rider
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Helper, Utah
USA BMW
R1100RT
Posted - 08/21/2009 : 10:58 AM
Scott--Which channel are the races being shown on this year?
scottrnelson
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Pleasanton, CA
USA KTM
990 Adv, ST2, XR650L
Posted - 08/21/2009 : 11:49 AM
quote:Originally posted by Deseret Rider
Scott--Which channel are the races being shown on this year?
Stevebr242 Junior Member
41 Posts
Davis, California
USA Kawasaki
'99 ZX6E
Posted - 08/21/2009 : 1:41 PM
I took a look around the web, and saw that there are a few jackets on the market now, from $400 to $700. I didn't see any suits, but I was just searching on the jackets. Also, I saw some demos of various products on Utube. Pretty amazing. The schmatics show where the bags inflate, and they look like they would give great protection from tailbone to skull on the spine, including around the neck to reduce injuries there. Also, they had tubes wrapping round the ribs and the shoulders were quite protected on top and in front.
There was also a video clip from a new station out east where a rider got in a street accident and claims the jacket saved his life.
scottrnelson
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Posted - 08/21/2009 : 3:13 PM
I just found this clip of Jorge Lorenzo falling off. It's in Spanish, and kind of jerky, but you can see that the jacket is inflated when he gets up.
FROM MCN "It may not have looked like it on the TV screen at 6am yesterday morning, but Jorge Lorenzos Dainese airbag suit did deploy during his crash at Phillip Island, as these pictures show.
The 22-year old Spaniard collided into Nicky Hayden on the run down to the first turn in yesterdays fifteenth round of the MotoGP Championship.
The two-time 250cc World Champion crashed heavily at over 110mph but escaped serious injury.
A Dainese spokesperson told MCN: The system worked perfectly.
Lorenzo was at 180 km/h and the airbag went off at the right time.
After that the strong abrasion caused a tear of the leathers.
Lorenzo suffered some gravel rash to his nose after the visor on his X-Lite helmet broke away during his cart-wheeling through the gravel.
Dainese has sent these exclusive images to MCN of the suit, and Lorenzos gloves that are badly scuffed but saves his fingers and hands from any injury.
Dainese is set to release a D-Air Street version of the airbag suit in their 2011 collection."
DDfromMN Standard Member
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St. Paul, Minnesota
USA Yamaha
FJR 1300, Hon GL1200
Posted - 10/20/2009 : 7:50 AM
Too bad Hor-hey doesn't have a device to prevent Rossi from getting inside his head.
twc Advanced Member
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Fort Collins, CO
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Electra Glide Ultra
Posted - 10/20/2009 : 10:06 AM
quote:Originally posted by DDfromMN
Too bad Hor-hey doesn't have a device to prevent Rossi from getting inside his head.
So true. Over the season, I've picked up bits that suggest that they aren't the best of friends. It seems that Jorge would like to be the star of the Fiat/Yamaha team, but I suspect the Fiat/Yamaha team would like to see Jorge finish a few more races. If he lasts long enough to gain some maturity and judgment, he's going to be a force in the future. He can ride, I'll give him that.
acrucifer Standard Member
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carmel, new york
USA Suzuki
Boulevard C50T
Posted - 10/20/2009 : 8:04 PM
quote:Originally posted by johncrosby
Looks like Dainese's crash test dummy is getting full value out of his D-Air suit.
FROM MCN "It may not have looked like it on the TV screen at 6am yesterday morning, but Jorge Lorenzos Dainese airbag suit did deploy during his crash at Phillip Island, as these pictures show.
The 22-year old Spaniard collided into Nicky Hayden on the run down to the first turn in yesterdays fifteenth round of the MotoGP Championship.
The two-time 250cc World Champion crashed heavily at over 110mph but escaped serious injury.
A Dainese spokesperson told MCN: The system worked perfectly.
Lorenzo was at 180 km/h and the airbag went off at the right time.
After that the strong abrasion caused a tear of the leathers.
Lorenzo suffered some gravel rash to his nose after the visor on his X-Lite helmet broke away during his cart-wheeling through the gravel.
Dainese has sent these exclusive images to MCN of the suit, and Lorenzos gloves that are badly scuffed but saves his fingers and hands from any injury.
Dainese is set to release a D-Air Street version of the airbag suit in their 2011 collection."
I have been wearing the impact air jacket for two years now. Other than the real life test resulting from the crash of Joseph Mcphatter a few years ago I cannot attest to its effectiveness since I have travelled a few thousand miles with the jacket on and without a crash of any kind. I know it makes me feel more confident which is ok as long as a stay within myself and spend appropriate time on my plp with circles, U turns, low speed manuevers, figure eights, panic stops and swerves. I love it. Its a little heavy and bulky but offers more protection than leather, so I continue wearing it. It looks like a mesh jacket but with air bags stategically placed at various points in the jacket. It also has kevlar protection as elbows and shoulders.
Edited by - acrucifer on 10/21/2009 4:10 AM
vivid dadas
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285 Posts
Columbus, OH
USA Suzuki
V-Strom 650DL
Posted - 10/21/2009 : 10:45 PM
DDfromMN wrote;
quote:Too bad Hor-hey doesn't have a device to prevent Rossi from getting inside his head.
I have had an awful day, that is a great line, and it made me smile.
Highway 61 Revisited Starting Member
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Desolation Row, Down Along the Cove
USA Honda
VTX 1800 Retro
Posted - 10/27/2009 : 7:29 PM
I also have been wearing an inflatable jacket for about two years. It has increased my comfort level considerably, although some time ago I decided to maximize protection to my thorax. I wear a weider weight belt as kidney protection, an Icon spine protector and the inflatable vest.
It isn't as bulky as it sounds, since the pieces compliment one another and act as articulated armor.
gymnast
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Sportster Sport
Posted - 10/27/2009 : 8:53 PM
quote:Originally posted by Highway 61 Revisited
I also have been wearing an inflatable jacket for about two years. It has increased my comfort level considerably, although some time ago I decided to maximize protection to my thorax. I wear a weider weight belt as kidney protection, an Icon spine protector and the inflatable vest.
It isn't as bulky as it sounds, since the pieces compliment one another and act as articulated armor.
Good protection, however don't start feeling invulnerable. A fire hydrant, guard rail, telephone pole support guy wire and any number of things coming the opposite direction or crossing your path can still ruin your day. Stay alert, search and scan, and, hopefully, you will never put your armor to the test. It is always better to not need protection than to use it. It is also better to have it than wish you had it for those times you need it.
Highway 61 Revisited Starting Member
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Desolation Row, Down Along the Cove
USA Honda
VTX 1800 Retro
Posted - 10/28/2009 : 6:50 PM
quote:Good protection, however don't start feeling invulnerable. A fire hydrant, guard rail, telephone pole support guy wire and any number of things coming the opposite direction or crossing your path can still ruin your day. Stay alert, search and scan, and, hopefully, you will never put your armor to the test. It is always better to not need protection than to use it. It is also better to have it than wish you had it for those times you need it.
Actually the best protection is your brain. Use it on every ride.
Stevebr242 Junior Member
41 Posts
Davis, California
USA Kawasaki
'99 ZX6E
Posted - 11/19/2009 : 12:58 PM
Seems like the Dianese suit is a lot more sophisticated than the tethered airbag jackets.
So now you have to wonder if they could make it so that it was capable of going off a second and maybe even a third time. It would have to detect that it had deflated before rearming.
I have much more confidence in a company like Dainese to protect riders than I do with some of the first companies to come out with airbag jackets.
gdickelman Moderator
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Annandale, VA
USA Moto Guzzi
California Vintage
Posted - 09/01/2010 : 4:52 PM
It's been almost a year since the last post to this thread, and I'm wondering what's new in the world of inflatable jackets, air bags and other injury mitigation devices.
Motivation for re-opening the thread: It's been almost nine months since my accident, and I continue to be much more conservative about riding. This is, in part, in deference to my loved ones: It's not all about me and my overwhelming desire to ride.
I am a conservative, safety-practicing rider. I love touring. I have been studying the issue of whether to continue riding or not for some time (while tooling around the school parking lot behind my house on my Guzzi...the poor thing hasn't been in 4th or 5th gear in a long time, but I can sure make tight turns at slow speed, and stop on a dime!).
A few thoughts:
- Swap my Moto Guzzi for a Goldwing, with ABS and air bag. The latter is a more substantial machine, with a number of additional safety / injury-mitigating features over the Guzzi.
- Add an inflatable, sensor driven (versus tethered) jacket to my (already substantial) safety wardrobe
- Keep up the extra training, as I always have.
Thoughts (on the original question: What's new in the world of inflatable jackets, air bags and other injury mitigation devices)?
haithabu Standard Member
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Canmore, Alberta
Canada Honda
Varadero
Posted - 09/01/2010 : 5:47 PM
The new thing out from Hit-Air is a tethered air bag vest which can be fitted over a conventional riding jacket. It has side segments which appear to be designed to offer lower rib/hip protection which the older models do not have. It is also advertised as having a new improved activation system which will deploy in .12 to .25 seconds (versus .35-.50 seconds for previous models). I have already ordered one to wear with my mesh jacket because my EU-3 is too warm for summer use in the US.
gdickelman Moderator
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Posted - 09/01/2010 : 6:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by haithabu
The new thing out from Hit-Air is a tethered air bag vest which can be fitted over a conventional riding jacket. It has side segments which appear to be designed to offer lower rib/hip protection which the older models do not have. It is also advertised as having a new improved activation system which will deploy in .12 to .25 seconds (versus .35-.50 seconds for previous models). I have already ordered one to wear with my mesh jacket because my EU-3 is too warm for summer use in the US.
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