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James R. Davis
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Houston, TX
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Honda

GoldWing 1500

Posted - 02/23/2017 :  1:48 PM Follow poster on Twitter  Join poster on Facebook as Friend                        Like
The motorcycling community has been rocked by a series of announcement recently about its future and the machines we love to use.

First came the announcement by Honda of a built-in attitude feature that allows you to stop and even disembark from a bike without the bike falling over - that is, without having to put the kickstand down or having to balance the bike when it's not moving.

Then Harley-Davidson announced a new model of its Road King that painted all the chrome black (or did away with it). H-D without chrome? Blasphemy!

Most recently BMW showed a concept motorcycle - that flys! (Designed in concert with team Lego.)

What's next?

Any engineers or pilots here who can describe just how a rider would control a flying motorcycle? If the wheels are changed to propellers (they are), then a simple change of engine speed could only change altitude. That suggests to me that the grip on the left side will become functional and in some way control speed of travel (canting of the propellers, I assume). But since there are no longer 'contact patches, what makes the bike lean or change directions, and how do you control that?

And what about brakes? That is if you hit the 'brakes' do you fall out of the sky?

Just curious.

gymnast
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4263 Posts
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Meridian, Idaho
USA

Harley-Davidson

Sportster Sport

Posted - 02/27/2017 :  9:24 AM
Perhaps in the future your riding experience will be what you enter into a smartphone app. Some drones are already "piloted" that way.

As far as a Harley without without chrome? Maybe they are trying to appeal to the "Goth demographic". The HD management person who approved this idea will likely find themselves working somewhere else next year.

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bachman1961
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2263 Posts
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colorado springs, co
USA

Honda

CB750 NightHawk

Posted - 03/03/2017 :  2:58 AM
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Originally posted by gymnast

Perhaps in the future your riding experience will be what you enter into a smartphone app. Some drones are already "piloted" that way.

As far as a Harley without without chrome? Maybe they are trying to appeal to the "Goth demographic". The HD management person who approved this idea will likely find themselves working somewhere else next year.





The missing chrome ingredient is funny and I think you are correct. Without all the reflective angles to check and see how cool 'we' look as we ride, that'd be no fun at all !!
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rkfire
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Stratford, CT
USA

Suzuki

Bandit

Posted - 03/03/2017 :  8:56 AM   Join poster on Facebook as Friend  
It could be a sneaky marketing ploy.

Reduce a Harley model by $1500 or so, without chrome. More sales.

Then, within months, the new owner will be buying $3-4000 worth of chrome bits from the parts department...lol.
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SkootchNC
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raleigh, north carolina
USA

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road glide

Posted - 03/08/2017 :  4:15 AM
the "chrome-less" H-D, is actually a current fad. Along with HUGE front wheels, many owners are opting for what they call "the murder look"

Flat-black...no chrome..and remove the extra lights, and maybe go with a smaller headlight....then ride the motorcycle on black top, wearing a black leather jacket.... and wonder WHY, drivers don't see them....

As James said in the OP.... the "evolution".... and with evolution... some species succeed , whiles others disappear.

I predict sales will be good
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bachman1961
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colorado springs, co
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CB750 NightHawk

Posted - 03/09/2017 :  7:55 AM
quote:
Originally posted by SkootchNC

the "chrome-less" H-D, is actually a current fad. Along with HUGE front wheels, many owners are opting for what they call "the murder look"

Flat-black...no chrome..and remove the extra lights, and maybe go with a smaller headlight....then ride the motorcycle on black top, wearing a black leather jacket.... and wonder WHY, drivers don't see them....

As James said in the OP.... the "evolution".... and with evolution... some species succeed , whiles others disappear.

I predict sales will be good



With cars and most motorsports, "the look" is what many find appealing and enough so to modify and change the factory styling cues. This is so "normal" but as you point out in this case, unfortunate to make one more invisible.

When you say you expect sales will be good, it's likely to be true although Customer Loyalty and Repeat sales would demand a survivorship that may not come to be.
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SkootchNC
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raleigh, north carolina
USA

Harley-Davidson

road glide

Posted - 03/09/2017 :  3:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by bachman1961

quote:
Originally posted by SkootchNC


I predict sales will be good





When you say you expect sales will be good, it's likely to be true although Customer Loyalty and Repeat sales would demand a survivorship that may not come to be.



Not all who OWN motorcycle ride them

The Motor Company has a large customer segment, that purchases bikes, customize bike, but rarely RIDE the bikes

According to the ads on Craigslist, and Cycle Trader...low mileage cream puff abound
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