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Maximus
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 Posted - 09/20/2010 : 1:52 PM
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I'm not fully up to speed on this yet, but it's reads as if Roadcraft is the premier MC training protocol in the United Kingdom. Has anyone that's been through the program living in the States and teaching it here? Is it good enough to consider importing to the States? (I like competition. Maybe that's what MSF needs.)
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James R. Davis
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Posted - 09/20/2010 : 2:13 PM
 
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Several of us were interested in investigating the Roadcraft program and so I invited a representative of it to create a Roadcraft forum here which he did and which still exists. (Use the search function.)
The problems began when it became clear that in response to questions, all we got was catechism - word for word recitations of the party line.
Then, when he ventured forth with an opinion about the dynamics of a motorcycle which was challenged (by me), he became completely defensive and put off defending his answer by telling us he would ask his 'professor' buddy to help him out. He never bothered.
Along the way, he decided to begin collecting a list of our member's e-mail addresses by using our e-mail function to send e-mails to members, then noting their address in responses, or by simply asking them to provide it. (It is not possible to hide your e-mail address to the person you send an e-mail to in the form of a reply.)
Nobody here can 'discover' your e-mail address. I keep them encrypted in our database for that very reason. When challenged about his efforts, he again denied and shortly thereafter disappeared.
All interest in the Roadcraft program promptly evaporated here.
If you want to restart the discussion, feel free. But do it in the Roadcraft forum, please.
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scottrnelson
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Jsin
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Posted - 09/20/2010 : 3:17 PM
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Originally posted by scottrnelson
Not about Roadcraft, but some police departments offer training to regular riders. Here is one example of what is available near me:
http://alamedacountysheriff.org/rtc...0hrMotor.htm
Reading from the link, I don't think this is for civilians!
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REQUIRED EQUIPMENT: Students are required to have:
1. a certified D.O.T. motorcycle helmet and eye glasses
2. Departmental Utility Uniform (coverall-type clothing)
3. boots that come over the ankle and leather gloves
4. 200 rounds duty ammo.
5. If possible bring agency motorcycle for second week of training.
I don't have duty ammo, nor an agency motorcycle :P
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SkootchNC
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Posted - 09/21/2010 : 5:17 AM
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North Carolina State Highway Patrol Sargent Mark Brown, did talk the NCSHP into sending him to London, to train at "BIKE-SAFE London.
He has since returned as a certified instructor, and is in the process of training fellow LEO as BIKESAFE instructors. I know it's spreading across North Carolina, as well as neighboring states.
You might suggest your local/state police look into starting a similar program
http://www.bikesafe-london.co.uk/ where it began
http://www.bikesafenc.com/index.las...EAVSpJ183D63
Bike Safe-London has been effective in lowering accident/fatality rates, and BSNC hopes to duplicate that record.
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Maximus
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Posted - 09/21/2010 : 8:33 AM
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| Thanks to all for the insights. Although it's been a while, every now and again I have the need to take a business trip to London. Perhaps on the next one, I allow myself a some free time for this one-day Bike Safe training. |
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Roadcraft in the United States?